Advising Notes - Vol. 5 No. 3 - 21 September 2008
This instrument is intended for communications with all AE students and prospective AE students. Anyone
wishing to be added to or deleted from the listserv should notify Prof. Moses D. F. Ling mosesling@psu.edu
All AE and ENGAE students must remain on the listserv.
SUGGESTED SEMESTER SCHEDULE
An effort is made each semester to schedule all required courses without time conflicts.
Course schedules are coordinated for the published pattern for each semester, plus the
“new arrival” third year pattern. Students should refer to
http://www.engr.psu.edu/ae/advising/schedule.asp for “suggested schedules”. Student
should follow the published schedule as much as possible to avoid conflicts. It is the
responsibility of the out-of-sequence students to schedule the required courses around
conflicts.
SEDE DI ROMA – SUMMER 2009
The initial information session was held. If you missed it contact Prof. Ling. The next
step is the initial commitment which is due 1 December 2008, the Monday after
Thanksgiving.
LEEDS – SPRING 2009
The Leeds exchange program for the current third year students is scheduled for Spring
2009. There will not be a Leeds program for Fall 2009. As a permanent change, the
program is being scheduled for the spring semester of the third year. The application
deadline for Spring 2009 was 15 September 2008. See Prof. Ling if you have missed the
deadline but still interested.
MINORS
If you are getting a Minor, go to the department offering the minor and fill out the
necessary paper work. Don’t wait till the last minute.
MECHANICAL COURSE SEQUENCE CHANGES
The sequence for several mechanical option courses has changed. These courses are
offered once a year. Schedule accordingly.
o 7th Semester (Fall) – AE 454 Advance HVAC
o 8th Semester (Spring) – AE 455 Advance HVAC Design and AE 457 Controls
o 9th Semester (Fall) – AE 497J Load/Energy Simulation as a required
department/technical elective.
FIRST YEAR ENGR STUDENTS INTERESTED IN AE
To be considered the major at the end of the first year, students must complete the four
entrance-to-major courses; Math 140, Math 141, Chem 110 and Phys 211 by the end of
spring semester with a C-grade or better. Students are selected in descending GPA
order up to 100 students. Please refer to the Engineering Program Guide for more
details and the alternate second-year window.
First-Year Seminar (FYS) is required in the first year. Take AE124s at University Park.
Take EDSGN 130 at University Park and EDSGN 100 at the Commonwealth Campuses.
Complete this course in the first year.
If you are scheduling Gen Ed (AHS) courses, keep in mind the (US) and (IL)
requirements. Generally, take a (US) course in the first year. The (IL) may be satisfied
by studying abroad, if you are considering this option. ARCH210 and ARCH211 are the
designated (GA) courses. See the AHS web page for more details.
http://www.engr.psu.edu/ae/advising/ae_gen_eds.asp
If you are unable to schedule a GHA (Health and activities) course you like, take a
second AHS course and postpone the GHA course till a later semester.
SECOND YEAR ENGAE STUDENTS
For Spring 2007, schedule courses shown on the suggested schedule
http://www.engr.psu.edu/ae/advising/schedule.asp
Schedule EMCH 13 in the spring semester of the 2nd year. Both EMCH11 and EMCH13
are prerequisites for AE308, a course in the 5th semester. If necessary, use the summer
to complete EMCH13. (CE340 is not an acceptable substitute for AE308.) It is critical to
take AE308 in the 5th semester.
ENGAE students should schedule 3 credits of ARCH130A in both fall and spring
semesters of the second year. ARCH130A must be taken as a fall-spring sequence.
Please sign up for section 001 and 002.
AE221 and AE222 must be scheduled concurrently.
Do not schedule any course that conflicts with ARCH130A without consulting with Prof.
Ling.
For students ahead of schedule, AE309 and/or AE372 may be taken by second year
ENGAE students.
THIRD YEAR STUDENTS – NEW ARRIVALS
Take AE309, 310, 311 and 372 in the spring semester (if not taken already). You will be
selecting an option in the spring of your third year. These courses are designed to give
you an understanding of each option.
The Architecture Department has added section 003 of ARCH130A MWF between 11:00
and 2:15 for third year students. Please sign up for this section early before it fills up.
ARCH130A must be taken as a fall-spring sequence. Do not postpone taking
ARCH130A till the fourth year.
THIRD YEAR STUDENTS
Third year students should complete AE308, AE309, AE310, AE311 and AE372 in the
third year. AE308, AE310, AE311 and AE372 are C-required courses.
For students ahead of schedule interested in the structural option, AE402 may be taken
in the spring semester (6th semester).
FOURTH YEAR STUDENTS
If you expect to have a time conflict with ARCH442, you must inform Prof. Ling or Prof.
Holland. The architecture faculty are expecting student to not conflict with studio time.
CE336 is now a 3-credit course. You will need to sign up for both CE336 and CE337, the
one credit lab. Please make use of your higher credit standing wisely and sign up early
for these courses. They will fill up quickly when the CE students start registering.
FIFTH YEAR STUDENTS
Check to see that you will have all the requirements for graduation. Activate your intent
to graduate on e-Lion in January if you plan to graduate at the end of the spring
semester.
If you have any petitions, you must file them one semester prior to your graduation.
Petitions filed in your final semester will not be considered. Don’t wait. Check your
degree audit. See your advisor for advice. Department petition forms (yellow) are
available from Mrs. Kimberly Lyle and in the second cubbies. The College of Engineering
petition form is available on-line. http://www.engr.psu.edu/Forms/
MAE/BAE STUDENTS
If you are expecting to graduate in the spring semester, you must activate your “intent to
graduate” status on e-Lion in January.
You must follow your program of study filed when you applied for the program.
Alterations to course selections and proposed schedule must be approved in advance.
Please keep track of your progress using information provided on the MAE/BAE web
page. The MAE degree audit is not yet available. A new version will be uploaded on
Monday, 21 September 2008. Pay particular attention to the senior thesis requirements.
See the following faculty for MAE advice.
Dr. Hanagan– Graduate Program Officer
Dr. Hanagan - Structural Option
Dr. Bahnfleth - Mechanical Option
Dr. Mistrick - Lighting /Electrical Option
Dr. Riley – Construction Option (Correction from previous Advising notes)